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They can still take you to court, regardless of where the server is hosted.

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Then why do so many people use off shore hosting to host illegal sites?

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So they're going to waste their money on extraditing me to the USA to get nothing out of me because I'll go bankrupt as soon as I'm declared guilty and not have to pay them a cent. So good game, why be scared?

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Extradite you lol? Why would they do that? Are you planning on going to jail? Extradition happens after you've been convicted and are guilty of a crime, they do not need you to be in the US to find you guilty of copyright infringement. You do not even have to be in court.

You're not protected, you should be scared.

Offshore hosting will not protect you. Offshore hosting will protect your files. If you reside in any country where there are copyright laws (DMCA applicable or not), you can be charged. That is the bottom line.

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Why should I be scared? Sulake are going to come after me because I make $300 to pay for my servers? Fuck off.

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Jeax wasn't scared with his Axed bots... then he was turnt into a bitch doing 100hours unpaid community service work.

Then again, your emu is probably just as shit as everyone else's so why would they bother, right?!?

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The process of bankruptcy is different from country to country.

I've looked up the bankruptcy laws in Australia for you.

For the duration of the bankruptcy, you must obtain permission from your trustee to travel overseas.
Any assets you have (excluding protected assets) of value will be sold.

The most important thing to be is that when you are out of bankruptcy, for many years on your credit report it will have "discharged bankrupt" on. This might not sound all that bad now, but what about when you're married and want to buy a house. You will probably struggle to get a mortgage or loan with that on your history at a young age.


My point is that you shouldn't think that declaring bankruptcy is an easy way out. In fact, if you are fined you should try and do everything but declare bankruptcy.

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Look at what happened to the scripting scene, I think we all thought eventually some new, young coders would take it back up but it's still all-but-dead. Interest is dwindling as is relevant talent.

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I never said you would. ;) I also stated that
I didn't state specifically that you would, but the intent of ^that^ part of my original comment was to say that you would not let them push you into giving up any of our information.
@Hejula RaGEZONE is not a direct threat to Sulake, but when you think about it, this is the place where most hotels get their emulators, information, swfs, etc. for their hotels. While MentaL doesn't actually provide the files, information, etc. he withholds information about certain users who have or currently do provide those things. As I have recently stated (and he confirmed), MentaL could care less if they are some big company, our information is secure and safe from not only Sulake, but all companies who seek that type of information. [COOKIES]

Certain Hosting Companies in certain countries will give up your information in the blink of an eye to avoid any court cases in federal courts, especially companies in America and UK. OffShore Hosting companies are not subject to DMCA complaints and they allow illegal activity to occur like Adult Sites, Torrents, Warez, etc. It is still liable to federal/international court subpoenas though. They are often hosted "Off-Shore" or in other countries too, especially Russia.

That'll be the next thing on Channel 4; Sulake first gets a lawsuit for allowing people who 'attack' kids. Now they're 'attacking' a bunch of kids just trying to advance their experience and knowledge in computer development. Who's the real criminal here? Most of these kids don't have a cent to their name, but the multi-million dollar company will do anything for money.

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The only reason Sulake (or now Elisa I guess) want to pursue people like this is because of people like Aaron and hotel owners who charge money for things. The habbo scene hasn't been about learning and furthering computer development in about five years bar the rare project. It's a shame too because Habbo used to be a hotbed for young talent and I think some peoples names will pop up again later on in the news (Dinnerbone's already doing alright for himself isn't he?) on both the side of evil (scripters) and good (fansites). There was some serious talent, dedication, quality and creativity for a fanbase of 11+ year olds.

Stop spewing bollocks.

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So the host doesn't suspend your services when they receive a DMCA Notice. If it is off shore the host won't be held liable, thus they ignore something that won't do any harm to them.

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Well, if you'd take a look around RaGEZONE's Habbo Section. You would know that you're the one "spewing bollocks". There are many bullshit developers on here who expect you to make an omelette for them without any eggs. There are also some developers who are really just trying to further their knowledge and help the community. Much potential can be found in this section, you just need to dig through the flamers, badge posters, and repeat posters of the same emulators. ;)

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No, it's not even my rose tinted nostalgia glasses. Habbo development was much better back in the day because the systems were simpler and there were wider goals than a carbon copy of the hotel. There are small pools of talent but it is by no means the hotbed for talent it once was.

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I wish all the retro owners the best.. You guys are taking a risk, so good luck with it. I hope they won't stop.

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Hi,

If we all contributed £1/ $1 to someone to make a huge server...and keep it hidden away from Sulake.
Quackster should be able to make the pheonix licence again...or something like that.

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